What are you afraid of?
Our cover girl, Chazz, likes to tell me stories of the women from her gym. As you can imagine, her snow-white hair causes quite a stir. So women are always coming up to her asking how she got that way. What are her tips? Her hair was naturally dark (it had been tons of other shades), but when she made the decision to go “natural,” she had a lot of gray and a lot of dark hair. She did what you can read about in Transitioning. Used a lighter shade on her hair that didn’t touch (or bleach) the natural dark color, but did tint the grays. She said it just looked like she had highlights. As more and more gray came in, she stopped using the lighter color altogether. Chazz thinks most women are really afraid of transitioning. That’s one. There are other “fear factors,” too. Like being afraid you’ll just pale out all over. Being afraid you’ll look older. Being afraid it won’t come in well. I’d like to hear what you’re afraid of. What are your worst fears about going gray? I think this is something we should all talk about.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 12/06 at 04:03 PM
I am a 59 year old grandmother who is just finishing her undergrad degree. I’m in the process of applying to grad school which means that I am competing with twentysomethings for what are a very limited number of spots in the programs. I don’t want to look a single day older than I already do so I’ve got a full helmet of dyed hair. It is the little brown bottle’s version of something close to my “natural” reddish dark brown hair. I couldn’t tell you how much gray I have if my life depended on it! How does one stay looking “competitive” while this transitioning process is going on? How does one even begin?
Posted by SoCalSilver on 12/07 at 09:46 AM
Oh, grannycoed—You are still under the illusion that you can’t be considered young, cool, and cute with gray or white hair. First of all, you’re not “competitive” with 23 year olds. You’re way beyond that. You’ve learned so much just from life. You have so much more to offer. The color of your hair doesn’t mean you’re smarter, dumber, or older. It means you’re YOU. An individual. Besides, have you ever stopped to think what will happen after grad school? In the workplace? There are soooo many ways potential employers can check out your age—including the internet. So your hair color won’t fool anybody. What really matters is if you carry it off well. The other thing that matters is if you actually LIKE the brown bottle’s version of your hair. If you’re happy, then I’m happy. D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 12/07 at 10:52 AM
I’m buying a hat...any hat! An inch and a half of roots is pretty ugly! It seems that I have a lot of dark hair left. There are a lot of shiny silvery/white strands too, but they are vastly out numbered by the dark guys. And, those dark ones seem, to me at least, to be darker than I remember my hair as being. Guess it is that reflection thing you talk about--I’m seeing no red highlights at all. I always had them before--bye bye red. Come on silver. Heigh Ho Silver, away................still determined to see this thing through.
Posted by SoCalSilver on 12/28 at 10:38 PM
Yippie-ki-oh-ki-ay! Go get ‘em, cowgirl. And let the light shine through! If it really bothers you, skip the hat, and try what Chazz did. See first post above. Just ‘til you get through that inch and a half stage. Remember—use nothing permanent! D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 12/29 at 07:57 AM
Is Chazz the girl on the cover of the book? If so, I am a bit envious of her hair. It is so beautiful!! How old is she? I wished she’d get on here because I wouldn’t mind talking to her. I know a lot of women I have talked to aren’t exactly as thrilled to be gray like I am. I guess I’m different.
Kendall
Posted by kendall88athlete on 12/30 at 02:35 PM
I think for me the biggest fear is I will look too old. I am 50 with a 10 year old daughter and as much as I love my mother I don’t want to look like her yet. I was thinking of getting highlights first so I can still see the gray but gradually.
Posted by NatW on 01/12 at 07:35 AM
Hi Nat—Welcome to the Café. Oh, I know—when it comes right down to it, looking “old” is everybody’s big fear. You say you’re 50 with a 10 year old. There’s a story in the book about Alice. She’s in her 40’s and has a 7 year old. Kids at that age confuse gray hair with grandmothers, and she said some of her daughter’s friends would ask her if she were the grandmother. While she said she was older than most of the mothers in her child’s class, she would just laugh and say “No, I’m her mother, and this is just the COLOR of my hair.”
There’s another section in the book about how we either tend to follow our mothers into graying or rebel against them (especially if they colored their hair.) We don’t know we’re doing this, but subconsciously, we are. So the question is—are we our mothers, after all? I don’t think so.
I think we’re a whole new generation that’s going to define gray our own way. My one “mission” is to get rid of the association of gray with old. I think gray is a COLOR. Can be a very interesting color. If we perceive it as old, we’ll start acting old. If we think of it as unique, something that really sets us apart, we’ll do all we can to make it great, lively, fun. In other words, we’ll pay as much attention to the “whole picture” of hair, makeup, body, fitness, skin, as we would if we were dying our hair, highlighting it, whatever. Gray is simply an option open to us, to do with what we will. Whether we’re in our 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. Our mothers’ generation had one option—color or be considered old. Attitudes have changed since then. Kids think it’s “cool,” celebs are going gray, magazines are showing it more and more. (Watch for my upcoming article on this, and in the meantime, check out Hip? Hip? Hooray! in the Gray Today section of the site.) It’s a different time.
If you want to start with the highlights, leaving a little gray to show, that’s a great first step, and could be the solution you’re looking for right now. Nothing a bit wrong with easing into it gradually. What color is your hair now? Remember you can have a highlighted “look” without highlights if your hair is dark and you just use a lighter, non-permanent shade on it. It doesn’t touch the dark, but does add tone to the grays. You might try that for awhile. So you’re not bleaching, you’re not using anything that stains the hair. Talk to your colorist.
When you’re ready for gray, when you’re committed to it, you’ll know. The women who are writing in and going “cold turkey” have that kind of commitment. Doesn’t sound like you’re there yet. I hope you’ll keep us posted on your decision—and your progress! D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 01/12 at 01:09 PM
Hi Diana, I think your book and website are great. It is an inspiration and encouragement for all of us who want to stop dyeing but are not sure how to. I am 40 and have been coloring my hair for 15 years, the thought of doing it for another 15 is dreadful. Right now, I think I must be about 75% grey/white. So, I am going to give it a try and stop. What scares me is how awful my hair will look during the transition phase. I have an appointment with my hairdresser on wednesday, I will have a cut, and discuss with her how she can help with highlights. Hope it goes well.
Posted by pam40 on 01/21 at 06:23 AM
Pam, I’m Kendall and let me welcome you to the site. I’m 19, will be 20 in April and am practically all gray. I think its awesome that you’re wanting to do this. If you wanted to be quick about it, you could do like Shira Levy did and shave your head. Then, when your hair grew back, it would be gray. I know not every woman would want to do this step. BTW, you can read Shira’s story on this site. I think society seems to think that a woman who is gray, prematurely or otherwise, isn’t beautiful. I beg to differ. Since I have gone gray(it happened fairly quick), I have talked to a lot of women who have not only given me more courage, but have helped empower me. Let me know if I can help.
Kendall
Posted by kendall88athlete on 01/21 at 09:48 AM
Hi Kendall, I don’t think I’m as brave as Shira. I admire the way she did it though. I started greying at 17, but it wasn’t too much. I do wish I hadn’t started coloring. We should be comfortable the way we are, and have the confidence to be ourselves, not having to conform to other’s views. To be honest, I can say this in hindsight, at 25 when i started coloring, I did not have the courage to be different, to be myself. Well, we live and learn. I will regularly visit this website, especially when I need encouragement to stick it out. Thank you.
Posted by pam40 on 01/21 at 10:28 AM
Pam, we very much live and learn. I’ll be honest with ya’ll. Its hard to be a sophomore in college out here in California and not be tempted to color. I see all these gorgeous blondes and brunettes and some days, I do feel different. Look at it like this, this is a new start for you. How short are you getting your hair cut? I think something that has really helped me to be strong is that I run. I was actually a sprinter in high school and I’m hoping to walk on at some point and run in college. Wouldn’t that be a sight, haha? Anyways, you’ll have a support group here to help ya out. You’re welcome.
Posted by kendall88athlete on 01/21 at 10:46 AM
Hi Pam—I’d like to add my Welcome, and thank you for your nice compliments about the book and website. I’m glad you’re going to visit often, this is a nice place to get all the back-up you need! I agree, the thought of transitioning is daunting to most women. So you’re starting off very wisely by talking to your colorist about making it “pain-free.” There are lots of things they can do to take you through the process—I’m sure you’ve cruised the Transitioning section of the website, and there are more ideas (with pictures) in the book. So it’s not all that bad, really. It’s just this whole fear is what stops many women before they even start. You’ve gotten beyond that. You’re taking action—and I’m proud of you! Do let me know what your next steps are going to be! D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 01/21 at 04:20 PM
I had my hairstylist’s appointment today. She was so supportive and helpful when we discussed what my options were. She gave me a nice cut, my hair is about chin length now. She then suggested a clarifying lotion , which she applied (smelt terrible) and that has turned my dark brown hair to light brown, which is not something I am used to. I also spoke to her about putting in white/silver highlights in a couple of weeks. Diana, you mentioned somewhere about putting silver/icy highlights, is that done with bleach? Now that I’ve taken this first step, I want to fast-forward to having it all lovely gray or white. Hope it doesn’t take too long. I think I may have to get it cut shorter, or with more layers in a month or two. Thank you for all the information and support.
Posted by pam40 on 01/23 at 07:52 AM
YAY! Let’s hear it for Pam! Why? Because she’s being pro-active. Not about to let the salt-and-pepper blahs get to her! Ok, Pam, your colorist did the right thing. First, by starting to tone down that contrast.That’s a good first step. I’m not sure what kind of clarifying lotion she used, though. Most clarifying shampoos or treatments are designed to remove residue and lift product build-up from the hair. They can slightly lighten hair or brighten tone, but yours sounds a little more dramatic than that. And the smell is a dead giveaway. Bet it had some ammonia in it. Sooo wish I could just re-print all of Chapter 11 here—“Special Effects”—because it covers all the various techniques that can be used to get you through transitioning. It defines them, shows women actually going through the processes, and the end results. And, really, there is a lot you can do beyond just highlighting or lowlighting. But, for starters, you asked about adding white highlights. That does make the gray hair more dramatic—but, yes, it involves bleach and foils. You might also consider just an ivory white glaze treatment to add more shine and life. That’s demipermanent, gradually fades away, and you won’t have a grow-out problem. Now, if you really want to fast-forward (and I wouldn’t advise it), you can achieve an icy white all over with a double process. Hair is first bleached to the palest shade of blonde, followed by a platinum toner to get rid of the dinginess. If your hair is predominantly gray, but not white, you’d use either a pearl, slate or silver toner. This gives you full control over the shade of gray you want—but then, you’re still locked into a touch-up-your-roots schedule. Sometimes, it’s better to just go with the flow. Keep an eye on your transitioning. Learn to work with it. Learn to love it. I’ve been at this for awhile. And while I’ve had years of being happy with the shade of gray it’s gotten to, now—and just now—I’ve been considering icing it up a bit. Love it that you got a good cut, too. You’re really working it! Good for you! D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 01/23 at 10:29 AM
I am intrigued with the process to attain an icy white; the double process. Would that be a good option for me since my hair is more than 90% white already? would I have to maintain it or could I just let it grow out with minimumal difficulty?
Posted by suzy2u on 01/29 at 04:29 PM
Hi suzy2u—OK, just for you, I’ll go and do it! Just kidding—I’ve been thinking about this for awhile. So I’m calling Beth Minardi for an appointment, and I’ll report back. In the meantime, I know a woman who has mostly white hair, but gets icy highlights every 2-1/2-3 months, just to keep it really white. She looks fabulous. If you are almost 100% white, a demi-permanent silver white “toner” might be all you need (and as I said above, that gradually fades away)—but if you are 75% - 85% white that would mean LOTS of very, very pale highlights.... toned with a silver-white “toner”. BUT—and this is a big BUT—didn’t you say somewhere else that you just had your hair dyed 2 weeks ago? So the overall effect is what—a dark brown? And you have really dark eyebrows? (That may need a little re-thinking!) Let me get all your facts straight— don’t want to fry your hair! D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 01/29 at 07:15 PM
okay; here’s all the details!! My hair is/was a very dark brown, which I have never really been able to achieve with hair dye...so it’s a brownish ehh color. It starts out really brown and the fades to a reddish brown that has a see through aspect to it, if that makes sense! My hair seems to be really healthy; no split ends or dryness; a bit of natural curl left. I once tried a color stripper and was an orangy blonde for 48 hours until my regular gal could ‘fix’ it. Shockingly, my hair survived unscathed!!
Posted by suzy2u on 01/29 at 07:32 PM
You might not be so lucky next time. You’re playing Russian roulette with your hair. Please—sit tight—I promise I’ll get back to you. D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 01/29 at 09:47 PM
P.S. I ordered your book and it’s supposed to arrive today! Can’t wait!!!
Posted by suzy2u on 02/01 at 04:33 AM
Thanks, Suzy! You’ll find lots of color information inside to help get you through this, and in the meantime, I haven’t forgotten my promise to get back to you. My “whiten up” appointment is Feb. 7th, and Beth Minardi and I are going to go over your whole color history. Stay tuned! D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 02/01 at 06:01 AM
Hi Diana;
Very curious to know how your appointment with Beth Minardi went yesterday and am hopeful that you will have some advice for me and my ‘ole head of hair!!
Posted by suzy2u on 02/08 at 12:21 PM
Hi Suzy—yup! I’m going to put an article in SOON about the whole process, and I think you’ll find further info in it. But in the meantime, I went over your whole hair history with Beth. She knew exactly what you meant by the transparent aspect of your hair—just shook her head immediately. It’s because of the stripping. These at-home products (permanent dye solvents), very popular in the 60’s, are very dangerous—the most caustic, highly alkaline products there are. They leech out the hair’s natural protein and moisture, physically damaging the structure of the hair, causing it to break off or fall out. Good that yours hasn’t—yet. But the internal structure might have changed, which could account for some transparency, and you’ve got to be careful.
Your hair turned orange because strippers are designed to do just that, so a colorist can add a toner. But they will not remove all color from the hair. (Incidentally, Beth will not use strippers, ever. Shows ya—if top colorists won’t touch this stuff, you definitely shouldn’t do it at home.)
Since you’ve been using dye regularly, you definitely should NOT bleach your hair in an effort to “turn” it white. It won’t. (Even what’s left of my dark hair didn’t come up to bright white yesterday—and that’s natural color, not dyed.) But YOU have to be particularly careful—you just can’t “erase” years of coloring. When Beth says “That’s when it all falls out,” she’s not kidding.
Then we got into the fading issue. If you don’t have color done every 4 weeks, it will fade. If you don’t use corrective in-between hair care, it will fade. Beth has been working on a Balancing Formula with a lab for 20 years to help control fading. That’s how tricky this fading issue is. Dyed hair will fade without the proper between-appointment care, and regular touch-ups. Pure and simple. You’re not alone in getting faded-ehhh hair.
Here’s what she suggests if you want to go gradually into transition. (Which is the only way you should.) Go to a salon and ask a colorist to use:
1. A no-lift demi-permanent, non-ammonia color in a dark ash.
2. Apply to ROOT only. Allow it to develop for the full development time.
3. You root hair will turn a dark medium blonde, but this will immediately give you less contrast with your darker brown hair.
4. Do this every 6 weeks until you have about 3 -31/2” of roots. Say, for the next 6 months.
5. On month 7, your colorist can do exactly the same thing, only now adding pale highlights with foils—just around your face. This will create a very soft, very pretty “halo” effect.
6. Don’t forget to have regular trims. Since you say you are naturally about 85-90% white, and you keep getting the dark brown trimmed off, you will gradually evolve into a soft, natural, understated blonde. At this point, you can more easily transition to white.
Now—if you want to color it yourself at home—don’t do it often, and restrict application to ROOTS ONLY. Do not follow the package instructions and apply it all over your head. You should take tiny sections, apply to roots, and leave it on at room temperature for 45 minutes. No heat. Check every 4 minutes to see how the color develops. If not, it’s back to the see-through hair.
One other interesting thing she mentioned—how do you know pure white will be the right color for you? She suggested you go try on a wig—see what it does for your skintone. There’s a chance you may like being brown, but you’re just not happy with the results you’ve been getting.
A lot to think about. And I know it seems like there will be an endless time of coloring, a time that you’d rather rush through. But the main thing is—for EVERYONE—who wants to go from using dye to being white, you’ve got to go slowly. Do not immediately strip or bleach your hair. Give it time to recuperate. The only other alternative—a chemical-free one—cold turkey. Hope this helps. D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 02/08 at 02:20 PM
wow! You really came through! What fantastic and thorough information!! I haven’t done my own color in YEARS (except for the one unfortunate incident last year!!). I do have a picture of me when I went cold turkey about 6 years ago and grew it all out. I do think white is a good color for me; the one thing I did notice was that my wrinkles seemed to be deeper looking. Since I am a “winter” I have always assumed that white hair would look fine with my skin tone. I tend towards rich colors anyway; love anything purple/grey and jewel tones. I have an appointment on thursday; and I will probably just get a trim, and then see how it goes. If it starts bugging me I can do the demi-perm. options you outlined above. I will print it out and take it with me!! I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to get these answers for me; and you don’t even know me!!!
Posted by suzy2u on 02/08 at 06:41 PM
Hi Suzy --
You’re certainly welcome. You’d be surprised how much I care (and worry about) all you Members writing in. Heck, I’m even surprised! I had no idea this site would keep me up at night! And the thing is, Beth does too. That’s why she’s in the business she’s in—she wants to help, and I appreciate all of her input.
Yup, your coloring sounds great for white hair. I think I’d still be tempted to try on a wig, though. Can there be too much of a good thing???? I wish you the best. Please keep us posted—and send in a pic!! D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 02/08 at 06:57 PM
Diana, thank you for all the info.
I wish I had waited to read your post before going to my hair stylist. I went in hoping to get white highlights which would help accelerate the transition. BUT I came out with horrid “yellow” highlights. Obviously with all the years of colour on my hair, the bleach would not take it all the way to white, without doing serious damage.
I guess it has to be slow and steady.
In a previous post, you asked if grey hair is big in England. Yes it is, but mostly in ladies above 60.
Where I live, I have just seen one lady who is more or less my age - 40, with grey and white hair. And it looks beautiful.
Until a close friend suggested it to me, it never occurred to me to stop colouring my hair. Somehow I think most women, without even really thinking about it, continue to dye their hair. It just doesn’t occur to them, that there is an alternative, that they would look just as beautiful with their natural hair.
I guess the media doesn’t really help. A few months ago, Prince Charles’ wife, Camilla went from pale blond to white/platinum. She had it done professionally- in 4 hours at a Mayfair salon and the tabloid newspapers came down really hard on her, saying she looked pale and drawn with white hair. And she is 60!!
So expectations seem to rule. And most of us just seem to conform.
Posted by pam40 on 02/09 at 02:06 AM
Well, Pam—if you’ve seen my latest article “Diana does Silverizing” (get to it from the Home Page, or under Transitioning), you’ll see the exact same thing happened to me. I got pale yellow, not white. And this was on un-dyed hair. I’ve been thinking about it, went back to my book, and found I had written that bleach removes the blue molecules from hair first (just like the sun does—nature’s own bleach.) So, back to our Color Wheel—what opposes blue? Yellow. Remove the blue, you get the yellow. I shouldn’t have been surprised at all—but even authors forget what they write sometimes!
It wasn’t the “years of color”—it was the fact that your hair had a lot of blue in its natural pigment. Still, risky business to bleach with dye still on your hair. I hope you won’t do that again.
Thanks for the info about England. Hmmmmm. I had heard gray was gaining great acceptance there. That’s really too bad about Camilla. Leave it to the tabloids, though! They’re forever going to compare her to Diana, anyway. (The “other” Diana!)
There are a lot of reasons women want to conform to expectations. Not the least of which—career concerns. But I truly believe that this generation is making new rules, creating new expectations, and that’s great! D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 02/09 at 11:22 AM
Suzy --
I re-read your last message again. Forgot to respond to the “my wrinkles looked deeper” part! I know you know WHY, but we’ve gotta fight these optical illusions. Fortunately, there are ways to fill them up. And, no, I don’t necessarily mean with expensive injections. The optimum thing to do is create a smoother surface, so light can reflect off your face better. Wrinkles create shadows. If you haven’t already, check out Products You Should Know About/Face (from the Home Page). You’ll find some smoothers there, and I’ll mention more in the future. Know you already have the book—there’s lots more information about brightening your face in there, too. Best, D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 02/09 at 12:00 PM
I am more than half way through the book now; hubby keeps teasing me about it because I have fallen asleep reading it the last two nights and he has had to pry it out of my hands! I CANNOT for the life of me find the pictures I have of me all grey from about 7 years ago; not sure where they went!!! But if I ever find them; I will surely send them to you! I am actually excited about this process. It will allow me to be myself; cuz I hate being fake; aka the hair color as I always end up telling people I dye my hair and then showing them my roots!!! how lame is that???
Posted by suzy2u on 02/10 at 08:08 AM
So my book puts you to sleep, huh?
Just kidding. I think, since you show people your roots, you’re really a great gray at heart!! I hope you find those pics. If not, start charting your progress, and send those in when you have a bunch. Thanks, D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 02/10 at 12:29 PM
I’m not scared of growing gray I’m scared of going bald! lol
A few years ago, in my late 30’s, my hair got extremely thin on top. I was diagnosed with PCOS with insulin resistance. As soon as I got all my harmone levels back to normal my hair came back. So graying isn’t scarey to me...at least I have hair!
Posted by Plinkette on 02/11 at 09:48 AM
Oh, Lori—You’ve opened up a whole ‘nother can of worms! Join the club. My hair is getting thinner than it used to be on top, too. And, as you point out, it’s not part of the graying process. We just happen to notice it at about the same time our hormone levels start shifting. (In your case, induced by PCOS—not clear what that is, can you enlighten?) But, as I point out in the book, there are lots of other reasons for hair loss as well. I think maybe we’ll get into that here. Soon—I’ve got lots of other articles in the “hopper” right now. But it’s definitely something I want to cover. Thanks for reminding me. D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 02/11 at 12:38 PM
PCOS is polycystic ovarian syndrome. It’s a complex syndrome it can cause weight gain,infertility,insulin resistance(which is normal blood sugar levels, but high insulin levels because the body isn’t able to use the insulin the body is producing so it produces too much,it can eventualy lead to type 2 diabetes), high cholesteral, and so forth. But it can cause hair to grow on parts of your body a women should not have and loose the hair on their head. To learn more you can go to http://www.pcosupport.org/ It can effect different women differently.
Some thinning hair is normal with age, I was 38 and almost bald just on top. I was lucky I found a GYN doctor who knew that wasn’t normal at 38 and was familiar with PSOC.He and my endocrinologist worked together to get all my harmone levels back to normal. Too high of lvle of androgen, cortisol, testosterone and insulin can cause hair loss, hairism, weight gain. As can a low thyroid, which I was diagnosed with at 27. Low thyroid (Hashimoto’s thyroiditis) can also cause premature graying. I think That is why I started graying in my 20’s.
Posted by Plinkette on 02/12 at 07:31 AM
Hi Lori --
Thanks for this info. I went to the site and checked it out. Also went to webMD, just to get more information. It’s really a hormonal imbalance problem—big time. Fortunately, with the right treatment, it sounds like it’s manageable. So glad you went to an endocrinologist!
Found out that it affects 1 in 10 women. Which I’m sure factors into the fact that more than 20 million women in the US suffer from some form of female-pattern baldness. Androgens, as you’ve found out, are the main culprit. Almost half of all women who experience hair loss can blame it on androgenetic alopecia. Yours were just put on the fast-track by PCOS. And when adrogens take over from estrogens—well, you know what happens! Hair where you don’t want it. No hair where you do.
But you also mentioned thyroid imbalance. Yup, that too. You can add to the list birth control pills, pregnancy, menopause, anemia, ovarian cycsts (which PCOS can give you in spades) and tumors. Anything, in fact, that interferes with the body’s normal rhythms and processes disrupts what cells are supposed to do—and that affects your hair, and its graying, too.
When testosterone levels get out of balance, you’ve got to worry about DHT, the killer-enemy of the hair shaft. Androgens can convert to DHT, with the assistance of an enzyme found in the oil glands of the hair follicle. It absolutely strangles your hair to death. I can’t get into it too deeply here, but there are suggestions for treatment in the book, along with some things NOT to do—or take.
But you sound like you’ve got it well under control—and I know that you know all this. Thanks for sharing your story, D.
Posted by Diana Jewell on 02/12 at 07:52 PM
Well the only thing that I’m still trying to get back to normal is my weight. I have lost 7 pounds in the last 3 months but still need to loose 50 more. But at least now it is coming off, for a while there it would not budge no matter what I did.
One other thing that PCOS does is raise the cholesterol especially the triglycerides. My total cholesterol is under 200 but my triglycerides are above 300 and I can not tolerate statins, trid them ALL, makes my legs hurt and causes brain fog. Trying omega 3 capsules now and oat fiber.
Everytime I see someone loosing their hair Ijust want to pull them aside and tell them to go have the harmone levles checked!
Posted by Plinkette on 02/12 at 08:03 PM
Hello all,
first of all I have a question for Pinkette, how are you losing weight with PCOS? I also have PCOS (which I really think is the cause of my graying hair) but cannot seem to find a successful way to lose weight. I have been told that I am insulin resistant, but my current dr. doesn’t seem to want to do anything about it.
My biggest fear of letting my hair go gray is what my family will think. I have talked to my husband a little and he tells me to do whatever makes me happy, but if I let my hair go, will I embarrass him, turn him off, etc…
My mom has salt and pepper for about 10 years now, but I still feel like I wouldn’t get the support I really need from her. I am mostly afraid of comments others make and embarrassing my family.
Thanks for listening!!
Posted by ksk on 02/14 at 02:00 PM
KSK,
I am on metformin for the insulin resistance and on the highest dose of synthroid I can take as well. I am on spironolactone which is a diuretic that also blocks the adrogens, and there fore helps lower the testeterone levles too.
Are you seeing an endrocrinologist (sp?) or just a general practice doctor? It is important to see an endo that is very familiar with PCOS or a endo-gyn. I had one doctor tell me there was no such thing as insulin resisitance, that I was either type 2 diabetic or I wasn’t. I called my endo and told her what he said and she called him and told him a thing or two.
I am just now getting all my hormone levels normal again to start loosing weight again. The metformin helps alot. 1200 to 1500 calories and walking 30 minutes daily is what works for me. But these winter months reeks havac on the walking, I just got a treadmill so now I have no excuse...<grin>
This is a great site: http://www.pcosupport.org/ for info.
If you don’t mind me asking where do you live?
I’m out side of St. Louis and veryforunate to have a lot of good Drs.here.
Lori
Posted by Plinkette on 02/14 at 03:18 PM
Plinkette,
Thank you for the information. I am near Monterey CA. I am seeing a general practice dr but she is really good about giving referrals. How did you end up seeing an endocrinologist? I guess maybe I should just ask my dr to put in a referral, I haven’t seen an endo since trying to conceive and that is how I found out about having PCOS and being insulin resistant, but since I got pregnant I haven’t been back to endo, 3 1/2 years ago! I do watch what I eat and try to do the eliptical everyday (even though it doesn’t always happen), but I really feel I need the metformin or something. Thank you again for your help and support!
Posted by ksk on 02/14 at 03:48 PM
Ksk,
Here is a link for message boards from the PCOS for CA.
http://www.pcosupport.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=13&sid=d1046d268c6b664b2b4482fb2ccedd15
Maybe some of these women can help find a doctor that will really treat you.
When I first went to my endo I had a prilimanary dianosisfrom my gyn. Plus I was seing my endo for Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis (low thyroid caused by auto-immune)
But she order sooo many test. CBC, lipid panel thyroid panel, fasting blood glucose, insulin, cortisallevel,both blood type and one where I had to keep a 24 hour urine speciman,kidney function test you name it she tested it. Then I went back and she started me on a lwo dose of metformin and gradually added more until I was on 100mg 2xdaily. Adjusted my synthroid so it keeps my TSH level between 0.3-3.0....most general docotrs would consider this too much,but endo doc use all you thyroid panel levls to decide dosing not just tsh.
Definitly see and ando, there are some gyn docs that are also endo that specialize in PCOS if you can find one that would be perfect if not see a GOOD endo.
Good luck
Lori
Posted by Plinkette on 02/14 at 05:56 PM
oop! that was supposed to be 1000mg metformin....I can’t type...lol
Posted by Plinkette on 02/14 at 05:58 PM
Since I am some what of a newbie here. I was wondering where everyone is from? Othering than graying, what is everyone’s interest,profesions and hobbies?
Let me introduce my self I’m Lori 42 year old mother of 3 grown kids.Justin 24,Toi 22 and Joi 21. Have 2 son in laws Chris and Jose and 2 precious grand daughters Calle 2 and Mercedes will be 1 on 2/19. Eugene and I have been married 25 years. We live 15 miles east of St. Louis,MO in Collisville, IL. I’m origianly from Georgia. Eugene grew up in Cincinnati OH. Hobbies are
photography,cooking,reading,walking,playing on my laptop and with my grand kids and dogs.
Posted by Plinkette on 02/14 at 06:08 PM
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